these death panels are news to us in europe I wonder how they hid it from us for long. Thanks Tim.
Im from Ireland and our system is following the USA GOP model and we have some of the worst medical care in western europe and our hospitals are closing down. Americans have no clue how universal health care is excellent and considered as much a right as the right to liberty.
Wake up USA Obama is finally bringing u into the 21st century u should be estatic. Liberty without health is misery.
Reductions in heath care will have to come at the expense of those who need health care the most The Department of Health and Human Services study shows that five percent of the U.S. population,the elderly, the disabled and the gravely ill, accounts for nearly 50 percent of health care spending in America. Who are those five percent? Most are people over 65 years of age with serious, chronic illnesses. So ANY cut in heath care $ is going to come from that group. Useless eaters need not apply
just look at the history of ANY LONG TERM GOVERNMENT program has the same cost growth. If you can show me a government program that costs were accurately predicted 10 years after it was put into affect it would be the 1st in US history.
Terminal care can be absurdly expensive considering the quality of life of the patient. Often times the patient isn’t the decision maker and families watch in horror as their loved one’s suffering is prolonged by the medical team. People should be enabled to make their own responsible life/financial decisions even when it is government or insurance company money.
expound on your idea there cupera1. how do you know 10′s of thoursands will translate into 100′s of thousands.
give us the factual data to back up your statement. in fact i can say you’re a sniveling idiot with a 2″ dick. i have just as much evidence as you do.
if you don’t respond to this, then i more than suggest you’re just another “christian”republican liar using your old fear tactics to scare americans with death panels.
YOU LIAR!
the fucking govenor couldn’t answer the question without lying
america, do you really want to trust these “christian”republicans who lie about health care? who put fear into america with their death panels? and for what, not to help americans, but to scare them into voting for “christian” liars.
pawlenty is just another “christian”republican liar!
Wow…did i just hear Joe Scarbourough give it to pawlenty…holy shit?! He got Tim Pawlenty to admit that there are no death panels…Holy shit. IMpressive!!!!!
Barbara Wagner’s received a rejection letter from The universal care system setup in her state run was crushing. The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that was prescribed for her, but the rationing board refused to pay. What the state run Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
How will replacing 10s of thousands of bureaucrats in insurance companies with 100s of thousands of bureaucrats working for the government make heath care cost less. How will force 50 million uninsured into a system with out adding more doctors nurses and hospitals make it more accessible. All that is going to happen is that the health care will cost more and be rationed only to people that work, useless eaters need not apply
these death panels are news to us in europe I wonder how they hid it from us for long. Thanks Tim.
Im from Ireland and our system is following the USA GOP model and we have some of the worst medical care in western europe and our hospitals are closing down. Americans have no clue how universal health care is excellent and considered as much a right as the right to liberty.
Wake up USA Obama is finally bringing u into the 21st century u should be estatic. Liberty without health is misery.
RON PAUL 2012
‘Costs’ is the first excuse that will be used to ‘kill grandma’ and banksters like Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan knows that.
The context is the bail outs.
We can’t afford to keep bailing out Goldman Sucks and JP Morgan with their trillions in worthless derivatives and credit-default swaps.
STOP THE BAIL OUTS = MONEY FOR HEALTH CARE
T4 program anyone
Reductions in heath care will have to come at the expense of those who need health care the most The Department of Health and Human Services study shows that five percent of the U.S. population,the elderly, the disabled and the gravely ill, accounts for nearly 50 percent of health care spending in America. Who are those five percent? Most are people over 65 years of age with serious, chronic illnesses. So ANY cut in heath care $ is going to come from that group. Useless eaters need not apply
just look at the history of ANY LONG TERM GOVERNMENT program has the same cost growth. If you can show me a government program that costs were accurately predicted 10 years after it was put into affect it would be the 1st in US history.
because she did not get the drug to arrest the cancer because the state bean counters deemed that her life was not worth it.
Terminal care can be absurdly expensive considering the quality of life of the patient. Often times the patient isn’t the decision maker and families watch in horror as their loved one’s suffering is prolonged by the medical team. People should be enabled to make their own responsible life/financial decisions even when it is government or insurance company money.
cupera1
You leave the wrong impression about the Barbara Wagner case in Oregon
She was at a stage of lung cancer where she was told she had at most 4 months to live
The last month is usual horrendous as you shrivel up to nothing
No one suggested the drug was a cure. But the manufacture claimed it MIGHT give you up to 2 more months in the hospital
She was turned down for the drug, but rather than protest she went ahead & bought it for $50
It didn’t work as she didnt even make it to 4 mons.
Amazing that this Pawlentry guy was once considered a potential Presidential Candidate – he’s totally koo-koo!
expound on your idea there cupera1. how do you know 10′s of thoursands will translate into 100′s of thousands.
give us the factual data to back up your statement. in fact i can say you’re a sniveling idiot with a 2″ dick. i have just as much evidence as you do.
if you don’t respond to this, then i more than suggest you’re just another “christian”republican liar using your old fear tactics to scare americans with death panels.
YOU LIAR!
the fucking govenor couldn’t answer the question without lying
america, do you really want to trust these “christian”republicans who lie about health care? who put fear into america with their death panels? and for what, not to help americans, but to scare them into voting for “christian” liars.
pawlenty is just another “christian”republican liar!
Wow…did i just hear Joe Scarbourough give it to pawlenty…holy shit?! He got Tim Pawlenty to admit that there are no death panels…Holy shit. IMpressive!!!!!
Another republic party member shithead who refuses to state that in fact there are no death panels.
Pawlenty is just another RINO that needs to go crawl in a dumpster.
Barbara Wagner’s received a rejection letter from The universal care system setup in her state run was crushing. The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that was prescribed for her, but the rationing board refused to pay. What the state run Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.
How will replacing 10s of thousands of bureaucrats in insurance companies with 100s of thousands of bureaucrats working for the government make heath care cost less. How will force 50 million uninsured into a system with out adding more doctors nurses and hospitals make it more accessible. All that is going to happen is that the health care will cost more and be rationed only to people that work, useless eaters need not apply
TPaw is trying to have it both ways. Appeal to the righist base (read Palin) and more moderate Republicans.
Hey Joe, way to go in trying to pin down TPaw. Barnicle, be worried. TPaw is going to “get” you. lol