Conservative New Media says Herman Cain wins GOP 2012 South Carolina Presidential Debate

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1. helltrackrider says:

   May 22, 2011 at 10:58 pm

   @Illumirage

   3) I havent compared the killing of terrorist to the terrorist killing civilians..I have compared the murdering that this military has comitted of innocent people to the murders that the terrorist or any other person commits…they are the exact same…regardless of the costume the individual is wearing or the badge that they have on their chest…murdering a non-violent individual is murder – the one who commits this murder should be shot in the head…regardless of affiliation.
2. helltrackrider says:

   May 22, 2011 at 10:59 pm

   @Illumirage

   2) Never said thieves should not be punished. The form of “punishment” must fit the immoral action carried out by the individual..

   …smoking or possessing marijuana?…harmless…warrants NO punishment.
   …non-violent, non-coersive theft?…harmless…Justice would be repayment in full + any damages to the party offended
   …violent crimes?…prison may be necessary as well as full payment of damages to the offended party.
3. helltrackrider says:

   May 22, 2011 at 11:16 pm

   @Illumirage

   1) as for crimes “for” America … you have to specify who the ones who are commiting the crimes are … when cops kidnap people for non-violent offenses, use force against people without cause, force compliance with “rules” of which have no purpose other than control or when the ATF raids homes for “illegal” plants and shoots animals or people trying to protect their property and lives or forced taxation…this is the definition or criminal.
4. Illumirage says:

   May 22, 2011 at 11:44 pm

   @helltrackrider
   Funny, I don’t think criminals in the U.S. steal, and kill for America.
   Thieves shouldn’t be punished? I wonder how you’d feel if you woke up and your car was missing.
   Also, don’t put the killing of terrorist by marines and a terrorist blowing up 80 civilians on the same plane of depravity.
5. helltrackrider says:

   May 23, 2011 at 12:15 am

   @Illumirage

   Much, Much more violence in the name of “America” has been perpetrated recently than in the name of “Islam.”

   Not only abroad – but at home as well…how many of todays prison population are “violent” criminals?…10%?…20%?

   Now, tell me how logical it is to kidnap and place a person in prison for non-violent crimes: such as theft or possession of marijuana?
6. helltrackrider says:

   May 23, 2011 at 1:14 am

   @Illumirage

   Lets see…probably over 1 billion of the worlds population is Muslim; and you use collectivist terms like “They” to round up all Muslims into one group.

   Yes…many muslims are violent; many more are not – assuming that Islam is evil based on minor proportions…how can we relate that to America; oh…i got it…YOU are a child molester who adores gay porn.

   See how that works?…it doesnt.
7. Illumirage says:

   May 23, 2011 at 2:06 am

   @helltrackrider
   Well, you don’t have to look too far to find violence in the name of Islam. I don’t hate Muslims simply to hate them, but they sure give the world plenty of reasons to.
   Example – killing 80 people in response to the death of Osama a few days ago. Avenging a mass-murderer, by killing 80 innocent people. Yep, they’re completely sane.
8. helltrackrider says:

   May 23, 2011 at 2:32 am

   @Illumirage

   I dont hate anyone without a reason; Christianity is not a reason for hate – neither is Islam.

   The “belief” in Religion (Government as well) is a sign of an ignorant and weak individual; but no reason for hate.

   Actions of individuals are reasons for hate – actions which are geared towards forced compliance, violence, theft of property, fraud, etc… mainly; like this shithole government partakes in daily…all other governments as well.
9. Illumirage says:

   May 23, 2011 at 2:46 am

   @helltrackrider
   You assumed wrong on the ‘god-fearing’ part. Way to go. Would it be wrong to assume you’re a Christian-hating liberal?
10. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 3:45 am

    @Illumirage

    Im sure from your rant that you are a god fearing conservative … lets assume the “god” part to be valid; God gave you a complex brain with the ability to reason … use it.
11. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 3:48 am

    @Illumirage

    BTW…I dont follow any political practice nor am I within a certain group of people that right wing or left wing media likes to invent — like “Radical Liberals”…

    I use logic, reasoning and common sense applied universally – that is to EVERY person on Earth – to deduce my beliefs.

    What did the thousands of innocent people in Iraq die for?…How about in Japan ending WWII?

    They died for a political agenda – not for a justifiable reason.
12. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 3:59 am

    @Illumirage

    And you are right…when an “American Soldier” dies while invading another persons land, forcing submission of another peaceful person and carrying out immoral actions – as the “soldiers” today are…I dont give two shits.

    If China was to send soldiers into America and murder thousands of innocents; would you clap your hands for their soldiers?…No. That is what America is doing presently…sending soldiers abroad counting on the American people to be “patriotic” and clap
13. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 4:47 am

    @Illumirage

    Muslim – inclusive of innocent civilians who have NEVER laid a foot anywhere near you or your family – much less pointed a gun at them demanding their compliance with their every word.

    American Soldier – non-inclusive of innocent civilians; inclusive of individuals who are trained to murder the “enemy” without rational or logical thought involved … who is the “enemy”?… whoever the superior officer says is the enemy.
14. Illumirage says:

    May 23, 2011 at 5:28 am

    @helltrackrider
    Do you? Because it’s sure sounding like you don’t. You seem to complain a whole lot when a Muslim dies, but when an American soldier dies you don’t give two shits.
    You reak of radical liberalism. That’s not a good thing by the way.
15. makaveliagain says:

    May 23, 2011 at 5:44 am

    As a Libertarian-Republican I would also like to see Cain win the nomination. He is 3rd in my book behing Paul and Johnson. But I would like to end this notion that Republicans are somehow racists. I think it would be an asset going into a race against Obama beign a black man. He is not only a weel spoken man with lots of real world experiance but also clearly spoken and I will give him benefit of the doubt. Ron Paul is my Hero but I would love to see a non-politician as president!
16. makaveliagain says:

    May 23, 2011 at 6:34 am

    I am a Ron Paul guy. But Hermain Cain is good I like alot of his ideas especially the fair tax. I will not vote for Romney/Palin/Ginrich 100% even if they win the GOP. Huckabee I am up on the air with only because of his support of the fair tax. I am a Ron Paul guy and I understand the bashing of his Federal Reserve seat. However he supports the fair tax. Zero capital gains which means you can own Gold, Silver or other currencies without having to pay any gains. He isnt Paul but over Obama easy
17. TooDamnEZ says:

    May 23, 2011 at 6:41 am

    Herman Cain did great…and yes IMHO he did win….that being said….. Republican’s will still lose in 2012….you heard it here first….lol
18. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 7:29 am

    @PathOfJioFreed

    Mob Rule?…what do you think today is?…The Government IS the Mob.

    Anarchy / Voluntary world has nothing to do with “Mob rule”…should anyone try to use force or coercion; as the Government does, to achieve their goals — they will most certainly be met with retalitory force; as we are inhibited from doing today.

    Theft and “Rule” would not be nearly as profitable and much more of a risk in a free world – risk vs reward.
19. helltrackrider says:

    May 23, 2011 at 7:54 am

    @PathOfJioFreed

    What prevents you from going up and taking whatever you want from another person right now?

    In a world where kids are educated properly; more will grow up respecting others and their property.

    In a world where people are allowed to protect themselves without fear of being arrested for carrying a firearm; people will protect themselves and their property.

    In a world where wealth is much easier to acquire; people will have less desire to take from others
20. brian8556 says:

    May 23, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Guys I would like: Herman Cain: People who a black president, well, here’s a black guy for president and would be much better than Obama. Ron Paul: He would be a great president and has a good amount of experience. Mitt Romney: I only disagree on 1 MAIN thing on Romney and that’s his religion. He’s a Mormon and I’m a Christian. And then, obviously, Donald Trump: He would be the biggest challenge for Obama, including Democrats. Plus, he’s rich so he could get our economy back on track.
21. ManaTatsuX says:

    May 23, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Herman Cain worked for the criminal FED RESERVE Also HE WILL OFFER YOU A PIZZA YOU CAN’T REFUSE
22. PathOfJioFreed says:

    May 23, 2011 at 9:20 am

    @roughnecktn I think Ron Paul needs to be in a nice padded room with the nice men bringing him his happy pills.
23. PathOfJioFreed says:

    May 23, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Herman Cain won hands down. Ron Paul is batsh!t insane hands down.
24. PathOfJioFreed says:

    May 23, 2011 at 10:57 am

    @helltrackrider Oh, you mean where people can just ride up and take what they want from anyone they chose? Mob rule? lol Yeah, that worked so well…
25. robn8r72 says:

    May 23, 2011 at 11:56 am

    @sharinganclan213 He also supports the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people, as well as a worldwide muslim caliphate… at least that’s what I’ve gleaned from his absurd “foreign policy” ideas.