‘Obama Gave Away The Store’ – Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA)

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1. 2010mousehunt says:

   May 22, 2011 at 12:47 am

   What about the health care of the aborted unborn.
2. saeyoung72 says:

   May 22, 2011 at 1:25 am

   @sinistar99 Dude, stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Obama = Bush III. His Health Care “Reform” was nothing but a gift to Big Insurance companies. He killed the Public Option and took it off the table, he has kept all of the Human Rights Abuses of Bush Era policies EXACTLY in place with no real changes. He is just a Con-Artist and a Liar. Look for and Support REAL PROGRESSIVES like Bernie Sanders, Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold, etc….Stop kissing Obama’s traitorous ass!
3. sinistar99 says:

   May 22, 2011 at 1:29 am

   @armyveteran101st “a person that truly puts the well-being and the future of our Country above partisan ideology” YES! Thank you! Yeah he might have pissed off some left wing pundits but he got health care reform and saved thousands of lives. Those lives are more important to Obama than his popularity. Kind of the opposite of Bush.
4. sinistar99 says:

   May 22, 2011 at 1:49 am

   @coopclauson “It seems that all Dems do is bully and threaten their voters.” Hahaha aparently you don’t remember Republicans telling us we’d be attacked by terrorists worse than 911 if we elected a Dem president. It’s Pubs that use fear and intimidation. Dems use actual reasoning.
5. sinistar99 says:

   May 22, 2011 at 2:25 am

   @Fitzcard True that! I dare anyone to find a contradiction from Obama as blatant as when Campaign Bush said “We won’t do “nation building.”
6. sinistar99 says:

   May 22, 2011 at 3:02 am

   @TheUSMetalhead I’m so sick of people comparing Obama to Bush. The argument is the same over and over. While Bush was starting 2 wars and trying to privatize social security, and deregulating everything Obama is reforming health care, repealed don’t ask don’t tell and signed into law the biggest wall street reforms since after the Great Depression. Of course it’s not enough he hasn’t fixed EVERYTHING in 2 years but there’s no comparison betwen him and Bush.
7. romelior says:

   May 22, 2011 at 3:09 am

   They just dont have any reasonable excuse against Obama
8. JBBlitz says:

   May 22, 2011 at 3:27 am

   @m0rbusPolytox yeah well you waste your time on foreign language which chances are you won’t use in your career, in USA, we actually have exposures to classes that give us skills to be in the workforce. i don’t need a foreign language so i won’t waste my time, if i do, i can use Rosetta Stone. they were left wing, communism is left wing and so is any form of socialism. Nazis were left wing ideological people that added race and hey liberals love identifying people by demographics.
9. m0rbusPolytox says:

   May 22, 2011 at 4:05 am

   @JBBlitz

   haha – you can’t even spell “theyr’e” – and i speak english as a third language! how many foreign languages do you speak?
   all this bullshit you claim dems are going to do: deathcamps, killing jobs – it’s just to stupid.
   but, the most ridiculous thing you’ve said is that HITLER and STALIN were LEFT – my friend, these two men couldn’t have been more RIGHT, in fact, HITLER’s nationalsocialism, the nazis are the definition of RIGHT!
   you are to ignorant to resemble the lies of FOX.
10. lektrum says:

    May 22, 2011 at 5:00 am

    I’m not American, so I suppose I’m missing out on the subtelties in your political system, but it seems to me that any form of political dynamic (as opposed to the blatantly obvious status quo) would have to come through splitting up the two-party system and introducing parliamentarism as in Europe. At least then voters could vote on one party out of 20 based on particular policies as opposed to one out of two based on perceived moral values and diffuse policies based on a ground of sand.
11. StarvingForTruth says:

    May 22, 2011 at 5:52 am

    @coopclauson yes, uranium….also peaking globally, though fast breeder reactors promise to somewhat mitigate this fact, IF we can suddenly make them a large scale reality. we just don’t have much time to waste on it, and i see no will anywhere to make it go.
12. StarvingForTruth says:

    May 22, 2011 at 6:18 am

    @coopclauson I also mean the petrol used in fertilizers and pesticides, in addition to what is burned in transportation. we can’t grow nearly as much per acre without petrol products. nxt gen. fuel cells remain for ever that: next gen. I know people on the cutting edge in this field, and I just don’t see it happening fast enough to mitigate the trauma of transition. It just isn’t developed enough today.

    Besides. Who said the elite mind a few (million) starved poor people?
13. armyveteran101st says:

    May 22, 2011 at 7:01 am

    @bobbytiger A wise man knows when the time comes to change his mind. A fool does not. You can make your mind up on a certain course of action and be completely wrong, and if you don’t have the mental clarity to realize this and change, you’re screwed. Obama does not have that problem. And the quotation marks are cute, but they don’t mean anything. Obama IS President, he was elected President fair and square, and he is not an ideologue, like most of the people writing comments here. That’s good.
14. shayaan2354 says:

    May 22, 2011 at 7:54 am

    Just because you’re a Democrat, doesn’t mean you’re different from Bush.
15. coopclauson says:

    May 22, 2011 at 7:59 am

    @StarvingForTruth On the gardening front–I sometimes wonder how much we’d save by decentralizing food production. I moved to Seattle a few years back, found out there were urban gardens here, and checked them out, but they’re extremely small scale, like some vegetables here and there. Again, without being an expert, I suspect there’s a difference between gardening and producing food on a scale that can actually sustain people.
16. coopclauson says:

    May 22, 2011 at 8:24 am

    @StarvingForTruth Without being an expert on the topic, I would guess that the upper limit on capabilities of nuclear would be mining uranium. That’s not even considering the issue of what to do with the radioactive byproducts, which I’m guessing doesn’t factor heavily in to the economic assessment of nuclear, but is pretty inconvenient.
17. coopclauson says:

    May 22, 2011 at 8:54 am

    @StarvingForTruth Well, maybe I’m wrong to do this, but as someone who comes at problems typically with an engineering mentality, I take some confidence in the fact that the laws of thermodynamics are on our side. The energy exists to fuel us, it’s just not in the right form.

    For example, when you say that nuclear can’t fuel the food chain–are you refering to the fact that transportation requires petroleum? If fuel cells become viable, then this may no longer be a requirement.
18. Fitzcard says:

    May 22, 2011 at 9:01 am

    @Bobbiethejean gw bush was not what we voted for eigther. Bush ran in 2000 on reducing the military, bring troops home from around the world and ending the US’s world police force and nation building programs. When it comes to turning around 180 degrees on policy overnight nobody compares to Bush. Sure 9/11 was a big deal in changing his mind on policy, but it was a pretty drastic turn around. Obama said numerous times he would reach across the isle, he is doing what he said
19. coopclauson says:

    May 22, 2011 at 9:52 am

    @shalcall I was recently trying to think of a policy outcome that would have been worse with McCain as president than Obama. There may be one, but I can’t think of it right now.

    It’s not illogical. As I said earlier, capitulation is not a long term winning strategy, that goes for voters as well as politicians. It seems that all Dems do is bully and threaten their voters. “If you don’t vote for us, bad things will happen on the supreme court!” I’m at STFU right now.
20. masterkayaki says:

    May 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

    obama was bush light, not mccain. how wrong was i? very
21. bobbytiger says:

    May 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

    @armyveteran101st
    Not a problem Vet.
    But,
    you can always change your mind.
    “President” Obama, does it all the time.
22. armyveteran101st says:

    May 22, 2011 at 11:41 am

    @bobbytiger Couldn’t have been more serious, chief. I am a Centrist, and I support the President 1000%.
23. Bobbiethejean says:

    May 22, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Obama deceived us. This is not what we voted for. We voted for change and ended up with more GW Bush.
24. bobbytiger says:

    May 22, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    @armyveteran101st
    Now that, is funny.
    Tell me now,
    did you type that with a straight face?
25. KangaKucha says:

    May 22, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    @bobbytiger now change that matters….